Poll: Worst Labour Minister so far this year

! This post hasn't been updated in over a year. A lot can change in a year including my opinion and the amount of naughty words I use. There's a good chance that there's something in what's written below that someone will find objectionable. That's fine, if I tried to please everybody all of the time then I'd be a Lib Dem (remember them?) and I'm certainly not one of those. The point is, I'm not the kind of person to try and alter history in case I said something in the past that someone can use against me in the future but just remember that the person I was then isn't the person I am now nor the person I'll be in a year's time.

40 comments

  1. Andi (82 comments) says:

    Never thought of it at the time Wonko, but you’re missing an “All of the above” option…

  2. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Have you seen how Reid wants to opt out of Article 5 of ECHR (European convention on Human Rights), the right to Liberty! He says he will seek what is known as a deification, where in in emergency situations we can opt out of some EU legislation, unless the courts give him extra powers! If that isn’t an attempt to breach judicial neutrality along with being a deeply immoral act i don’t know what is.

    I’m supprised you haven’t had a rant about him being such a prat. I can’t believe he is doing this, to do so would breach HRA 1998 (Human Rights Act) along with the ECHR, however, there is a loophole in EU legislation wherein a member state can seek a deification, wherein they can be exempt from an aspect of EU law. Makes you wonder why the EU even lets its legislation superceed member states when member sates can get exemption whenever they wish.

  3. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    The British government keeps telling us that sovereignty remains with parliament so why would they need to ask permission to be exempt from an EU law?

    I haven’t ranted about it because I didn’t know about it. Got a link?

  4. Calum (183 comments) says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6686415.stm

    Think it is in here somewhere. I’d picked it up from watching the news and then pieced together what is going on from my own knowledge.

    I oppose a political EU, but an economic one is good in my book. Yet, the main politicial thing that the EU is good for is ECHR, especially for us in the UK where Parliamentary sovereignty superceeds human rights. The EU ECHR redresses this balance, so the main political thing i thank the EU for. Yet it cannot even do this right! The fact that a Government can seek a ‘deification’ i believe is the term is rediclious. Reid is really starting to piss me off, i didn’t think he was too bad, thought it was good of him to say he was going to resign etc… yet this rubbish about splitting the home office, annoying the judiciary is never good, now he is basically telling them what to do, and saying that ‘if ya don’t let me do it, then I’ll do it anyway’Being a prat. and thats me putting it nicely.

  5. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Sorry, the way we can pull out is to derigate, not to by a ‘deification’, didn’t think it sounded right.

    We can seek to derigate from article 5 of the ECHR.

  6. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Just seen on Politics show a peice on it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/default.stm

    Just said basically what i just said.

  7. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    Deification would be to make someone into a god I think. I think the word you probably want is “derogate” as in to get a derogation. The British government doesn’t have to implement any law from the EU, it is still the sovereign parliament and – as they continue to tell us – they have primacy over the EU.

  8. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, what in particular about redressing the balance do you thank EU for? That every black asylum seeker with 12 children has a right for getting a home in the UK and preaching islamification of Europe while getting payouts enough for luxury living?

  9. Calum (183 comments) says:

    You are right wonko, i did’t think that i writing the correct word, that is why i added extra post correcting myself. I saw definition lastnight after i had done post, and that is when i realised for sure i had written the wrong thing.

    Is a derigation from EU law that Reid will seek.

    Scaffold, you racist f**k. Anyway, you aren’t in any position to have a go at people entering the UK as migrants/immigrants considering you are a Russian.

  10. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, I am not a racist! I am against immigration! It is only in brainwashed brains like yours racism and opposing immigration are equal.
    Racism = telling that your race is superior.
    Opposing immigration = telling country had enough migrants.
    Please advice me on relations between these two issues. I am all attention.

  11. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, I’m still waiting for you to back your claims that racism and opposition to immigration are the same!

  12. Calum (183 comments) says:

    “That every black asylum seeker with 12 children has a right for getting a home in the UK and preaching islamification of Europe while getting payouts enough for luxury living”

    Sounds a bit like racist bigotary to me.

    Racism isnt just about racial superiourity, it is holding bigoted views, stereotyping and holding predjudices based upon the colour, ethnicity, clutural background, religion etc… of a person or persons. That is racism and that is what your comment was.

    Anyway, you are a migrant aren’t you? Do you want us to change the laws so you are kicked out of the uk? Didi’t think so.

  13. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, I am not a migrant. I am not a racist. I am merely defending the right of white peole to shut the borders to the ones of other colours and creeds. And I do not think that they are inferior to whites. CAN YOU FUCKING FEEL THE DIFEERENCE, YOU POLITICALLY CORRECT, SELF-DESTRUCTING DUMBASS???

  14. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, you stupid fucking scottish politically-correct bigot, do you really fucking believe that people are created equal?

  15. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, those like you are ready to destroy their way of life, their creed, their country, their future in favour of lunatic stupid idiotic ideas of racial equality. Open your eyes to the fact that letting cheap labout into country benefits only large business, and brings no good to the ordinary working people. Fucking asylum seekers are plainly abusing the system and really do not need any of the benefits YOU are ready to pay them out of yout pocket. ABOLISH FREE IMMIGRATION! BRING FORTH SKILLED POINTS BASED MIGRATION!!! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM! ABOLISH ASYLUM!

  16. Calum (183 comments) says:

    “I am merely defending the right of white peole to shut the borders to the ones of other colours and creeds.”

    That sounds like blatant racism to me.

    You then go on to say “And I do not think that they are inferior to whites.” yet contradict yourself in saying “lunatic stupid idiotic ideas of racial equality” That sounds like you are a racist, verging on a white supremacist.

    Is this more about you dislike of foreigners than your dislike of immigraation? Afterall it is immigration and migration that put Britain at the zenith of the world in the C19th and early C20th. The British way is to allow people to share nation, to share our democracy and stave off authoritarianism. It is impossible to have true democracy and walled borders. Walled borders didn’t work in Berlin, they wouldn’t work in the UK.

    We should allow people in the UK on the basis of need. Furthermore, once people enter the UK they are part of it, and therefore should and are intitled to the same rights and benefits as people born in the UK.

    You, scaffold are a racist biggot. And for the record i am not a Scot (I live and allways have lived London), i am a Brit. Britian is a nation of inclusiveness. If you or anyone else for that matter cannot accept that then they are the ones who should be thrown out, not those they lombast and deride with “go home” “you took my job” and so on bla bla bla.

    Also, while i am ranting, “you took my job” is a load of rubbish. Migrants dont “take” your job, they do it when you wont. That is the free market my friend. If you have a problem with the free market i would be more than happy to create a socialist state, however, i wouldnt give anyone racist preferencial employment treatment as you seem to want. All are equal. In every way of life, in employment in the eyes of the Law etc…

    To put one people above another is wrong, and if that is what you would strive to do, then f you. And thank God that more people don’t follow your political philosophy and vote for such nationalist racist parties.

  17. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, you are brainwashed cosmpopolitan bigot! Every race has its destined place of living and that’s all!
    It is right to put one people above others if you put indigenoues population above freshly arrived migrants.
    As for the free market, my little politically-correct friend, it must be, but it must be paired with the reasonable protectionism. Have you ever heard that word? I bet you haven’t. You are ready to destroy economy in favour of idiotic ideology. By the way – blindly following ideology without and connection to the reality was the thing that brought USSR to its doom. Now Europe follows.

  18. Calum (183 comments) says:

    “Every race has its destined place of living” That sounds like National Socialism to me.

    You should base things like housing on need, not race nor ethnicity. To do so exhibits a certain racial preference, a undesirable situation. After all 50million people died in a conflict spanning six years wherein the aim of one side was to subjucate and create a world based on race, wherein the Aryan race would have their land, and would have dominion over all other races, while the other side fought against this injustice and persecution. Tell me which side of this conflict would you have fought for? Those wanting to “keep aryan land for arynas” or those who wanted a free world for all?

    Furthermore, on your point of “Every race has its destined place of living” would you have the entire white and black population of the US deported because Americas “indigenoues population” as you would call them are ‘native American Indians’ Whould you have a soley black africa? Would you have a soley white europe? Are you realy that racist that you would like to see a world divided by race and creed?

    The history of mankind is one of integration on migration, man has allways moved from country to country, from land to land roaming free. That is the reason that man has spread and claimed dominion over the earth. Furthermore, by your logic of “Every race has its destined place of livingEvery race has its destined place of living” should we all live in africa, for that is where mankind arose?

    Scaffold you are a racist biggot, with your own personal ideology exposing elements of National Socialism and White supremacy.

    Additionally, on your point about the collapse of the USSR, one of the the greatest disasters of the last 50 years, it wasnt due to blindly following ideology that it collapsed. The Soviet Union collapsed following Gorbachevs reforms. Gorbachev could have staved off collapse by reverting to dicatorshio, yet he was a soviet democrat. The collapse of the Soviet Union ended Russias march to democracy. Gorbachev had created a democratic Soviet Union, not a western liberal democracy, but a soviet ddmocracy, talored for the USSR. When Yeltsin diposed Gorbachev and dismantled the USSR against the wishes of the general populus, who had voted for the rentntion of the union in a referendum the previous month, Yeltsin ended Russian democracy. Replacing it with crony capatlism, wherein a small group became mega-rich nad where the rest fell desolate, with over 25% of the population living below the poverty line. The collapse of the USSR wasn’t due to blind ideology, it was due to politicial selfishness and intrigue from Yeltsin and others. Who put self interest ahead of that of the Soviet citizens who would be living a much better life now were the USSR preserved. They would live in a Soviet democracy, and would be looked after, by a combination of communism, socialism along with tamed down capatlism and liberalism.

  19. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, LOL! Now you’re trying to educate me on history of the USSR. Do you really believe that it was Yeltsin who destroyed the USSR? This country was rotten from top to bottom, its economy was ruined, it could not live any longer. By the way, not the least reason for that was helping out various poor third world countris out of ideology of spreading communism. The same as UK and Europe does now out of ideology of historical guilt of white man.

    Have you ever thought that the best thing the West can do to help poor third world people is completely stop immigration thus eliminating the easy escape option – those people will finally start making THEIR own countries better rather than running to UK and live their lives of benefits in laziness and pleasure?

  20. Calum (183 comments) says:

    “rather than running to UK and live their lives of benefits in laziness and pleasure?”

    In fact migrant workers are some of the hardest working people in the UK. Migrant worker employment is high as they will do most jobs, additionally as a portion of their population, migrant workers claim less benefits than “indegionous” peoples. Meaning a higher % of “native” Brits claim benefits than migrant workers. It is utter rubbish to say that all migrants come to the UK to live of benefits and do nothing. As it is rubbish. Most migrants come to the UK to earn money, of which they send a portion home (over 75% of migrant workers send a portion of their income home). There is a small minority who enter the UK and never seek work, howeverm such cases are exasabated and reported by the largley right wind press, who never give the time of day to those migrants who spend most of their lives working to make this country a better place, who pay their taxes are are productive members of the UK.

    Additionally, how about answersing my points about how you are a racist verging on a white supremacist?

    Also, if you want to talk about democracy in Russia, it is non-existant. It only existed for a breif few years under Gorbachev, and even that was nowhere near proper democracy.

    Also, in a previous post you said you weren’t a migrant/immigrant, yet you are russian. Explain that. On your logic that all migrants are lazy and living off benefits then you must be doing the same.

  21. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    I explain. I do not live in England, I live in Moscow. LOL

    I never said that democracy exists in Russia. Neither it existed under your beloved Gorbie.

    As for me being racist-bigot-white-supremacist-blah-blah-yawn, it is mere your brainwashed brains which call me so. In the modern politically correct climate everybody who thinks something different from what he/she is told to think by authorities is labelled straight away.

    Do you want a free lesson about roots of immigration? Sit and listen. Why Europe is told that it need migrants? Because there are socialist parties in control all over the place. Socialism is all about robbing those who works and giving to those who does nothing. Those parties are in desperate need for large masses of inept and inert third world migrants who come to country to live off benefits. Why? Because thus they get loyal electorate – dependent masses will go and vote for socialist parties. That is why you are told that Europe needs migrants. But the reality is that it is only for political purposes and not for the economy. Only those stupid PC bigots like believe the lies they are being told by likes of Labour.

    Please answer the question – do you believe that it is OK that in European cities now exist real isolated areas of alien culture, populated exlcusively by HOSTILE migrants?

  22. Calum (183 comments) says:

    “Sit and listen.” I am not 6 years old Scaffold, so don’t patronize me.

    I am only saying, comments such as “I am merely defending the right of white people to shut the borders to the ones of other colours and creeds.” and “Every race has its destined place of living” sounds incredibly racist to me, and that isn’t PC sensibilities, that is blatant racism. That is the words of the far right, such i would expect to be uttered from say Russian National Bolsheviks or other groups of the far right.

    “Please answer the question – do you believe that it is OK that in European cities now exist real isolated areas of alien culture, populated exlcusively by HOSTILE migrants?”

    That isn’t the way it is. I will admit there are small enclaves where a migrant community almost live in an island unto themselves, i do not agree with this. Firstly in doing to such groups play into the hands of rightist propagandists, additionally it is alienation and division which causes bigotary. I believe that integration is vital, that people should accept the history of their adopted nation, and the fact is that most migrants do that.

    Also. I am thinking of traveling in Russia and former Soviet Bloc countries. Any tips on places i should try to see. Was thinking of traveling by rail across Europe, so from train in London, to Berlin, on to Poland and in Poland i would like to see various sites. Then to Russia, either through Beleraus or Ukraine. Then in Russia i don’t know if i should just see the main 3 western cities, Volgograd, Moscow and St Petersburg (or should i call it Leningrad 😉 ). Wasn’t sure if i should go much further east, well i would like to go further east, but not sure where in particular i should go. If you could give me any ideas i would be most gratefull.

  23. Sean Lynch (80 comments) says:

    What is a commie doing posting on this blatantly anti commie board and ranting on with his PC agenda anyway.
    Nobody on this board shares your discredited ideology, so what’s the point coming on here when nobody agrees with anything you say.
    Nobody on this board(you excepted) is gagged by political correctness, There is still freedom of speech and expression and sometimes it can be found on this board and if a minority of brainwashed PC sods don’t like it well, there’s plenty of commie boards to post on, just go to the Liebour party board, they’ll love you because you speak their language.
    But no, you are going to remain and gainsay everything said on this board. That’s how the left is.
    It is the left who are in charge in this country and it is THEY who don’t listen, NOT us

  24. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Sean, democracy is about hearing different views, i am the different view on this site, otherwise it would just be you bunch of right wingers aplauding eachother “here here, end em home old boy” bla bla bla.

    If you dont like what i say them tough. We live in a free country. For all you talk of freedom of speech you would seek to gag me and tell me to f off. That is hypocritical.

    Furthermore, i am not gagged by Political correctnesss. I am merley bound by my sense of what is right, and in my opinion racist xenophobia isn’t right. Saying that certian parts of the world are just for White people is wrong, and it that isn’t said out of PC sensibilities, it is said as i beleice to say such is wrong. Political correctness can act as a gag on people, however, what i am saying isnt borne out of this PC culture, it is borne out of a sense of what is and what isn’t right.

  25. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Also, Sean, it isn’t the left who run the UK. As if you think New Labour is left wing then you must live in planet coco land.

  26. Sean Lynch (80 comments) says:

    What are they then? It is a dictatorship(Communism), they rule by fear (Communism), they expropriate i.e. steal other people’s wealth to give to the “poor”(Communism), they tell people what to say, eat, think and do, whilst themselves living the life of Riley(Communism), Gordon Brown is a committed Marxist. looks like Communism, smells like Communism and by golly it IS!!

  27. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Are you seriously saying that New Labour are Communists?

    Brown is a committed market economist. He is New Labour. Blair is almost Tory wearing a red lapel. If you seriously think Labour are even socialist then you are nuts. Also, how is taking from the mega rich and giving to the poor in any way bad?

    Britian in the past 10 years has seen a masive increase in Millionares, therefore your thesis of Labour being commies is blown out of the water, additionally New Labour has become a party of privitisation, not nationalisation of idndustry and business, since the Droping of Clause 4.

    Labour aren’t Socialist. I wish they were more left wing. Labour have taken social democracy and combined it with neo-liberalism and thatcherism to create the 3rd Way of New Labour.

    Labour arent socialist, and they certianly aren’t communist. So shut you mouth, and get informed. As you sound like an ill informed, pretentious git. So,how about reading a paper, watching the news or something. How about getting you head out of your asre and looking at the nature of those who govern this country. If you have even half a brain it should take you 2 seconds to see that they aren’t communists.

  28. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Oh, by the way sean. Have you decided if Labour are commies or Fascists yet?

    “Extract from Wikipedia ( )parenthesis is mine!
    “Fascism is also typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic; in the examples given, by way of a strong, single-party government(eg.’New’ Labour) for enacting laws and a strong, sometimes brutal militia or police force for enforcing them(eg.the politicisation of the police under Tony Blairs ‘New’ Labour regime). Fascism exalts the nation, state, or group of people(eg.’New’ Labour and its blind followers) as superior to the individuals composing it. Fascism uses explicit populist rhetoric(as used by ‘New’ Labour); calls for a heroic mass effort to restore past greatness (eg.’New’ Labours assertion that history began in 1945); and demands loyalty to a single leader(Blair or is it Brown?), leading to a cult of personality and unquestioned obedience to orders”
    (eg. Tony Blair’s ‘New’ Labour government of the UK.)

    Comment by Sean Lynch | March 25, 2007”

    http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2007/03/23/ethnic-monitoring-in-hospitals/#comments

    Well? Are Labour commies of Fascists. Because they can’t be both can they.

  29. Sean Lynch (80 comments) says:

    O.K. you asked for it:-
    At least I am an ill informed pretentious git who can speak and write English properly and is more than 12 years old!!
    Fascism and Communism are two words decribing the same totalitarian police state that Blair and Brown and the rest of those shits have turned this once green and pleasant land into.
    The Labour party, sounds nice friendly and pleasant doesn’t it, has always been Marxist, it was founded by Keir Hardy, a Scottish Marxist and nearly all the old guard were once card carrying members of the now defunct Communist party of Great Britain.
    O.K. you say you are here to stay, I don’t mind as long as you don’t attempt to commie style thought police this board.
    We don’t want leftist agent provocateurs and thought police
    on this board!

  30. Calum (183 comments) says:

    For your info Sean, i am actually 16.

    Communism differs greatly form Facsism on paper, yet practically they often end up similar.

    Indeed, the Labour party once had a Marxist subculture, however that was what new Labour was about attacking. New Labour obliterated the Marxist subculture, thus removing all its bad element, yet removing some once immovable principles, such as Clause 4. The purge of the left that formed new labour was good and bad, in so far as it removed the so called ‘militant left’ however, it removed almost all traces of socialism from the party, something i rue. I am a socialist cum social democrat, i am, you could say a socialist democrat. i suppose if i were to attract those obsesed with 3rd ways, i could say i am the internal Labour 3rd way or some other bollocks.

    I am not the thought police, so fuck you. If anything, the person most fitting of such a title is yourself, as you constantly tell me to piss off. I am here and i am here to stay, to piss you off as much as to do anything else, you ignorant prat. I am merely speaking my mind, as are you, and if you don’t like it the screw you.

  31. Calum (183 comments) says:

    For your info Sean, i am actually 16.

    Communism differs greatly form Facsism on paper, yet practically they often end up similar.

    Indeed, the Labour party once had a Marxist subculture, however that was what new Labour was about attacking. New Labour obliterated the Marxist subculture, thus removing all its bad element, yet removing some once immovable principles, such as Clause 4. The purge of the left that formed new labour was good and bad, in so far as it removed the so called ‘militant left’ however, it removed almost all traces of socialism from the party, something i rue. I am a socialist cum social democrat, i am, you could say a socialist democrat. i suppose if i were to attract those obsessed with 3rd ways, i could say i am the internal Labour 3rd way or some other bollocks.

    I am not the thought police, so fuck you. If anything, the person most fitting of such a title is yourself, as you constantly tell me to piss off. I am here and i am here to stay, to piss you off as much as to do anything else, you ignorant prat. I am merely speaking my mind, as are you, and if you don’t like it the screw you.

  32. Alan Douglas (4 comments) says:

    So, the Nazis were fascists, were thery ? Na-zi is a shortening of NAtional SOcialist.

    Therefore the point made above that socialism and fascism is the same thing is correct.

    Immigration is to be welcomed, but the rights of poeple aready IN a country, who by their labour and taxes have in effect “created” that country must also be respected. Thus the UK has welcomed many waves of immigrants over the centuries, but under New Liebour the proportions have changed from reasoned and willing help to lying back and thinking of anything BUT England while we are being over-run.

    I say “we” even though I was an immigrant in the 1950s.

    Alan Douglas

  33. Calum (183 comments) says:

    No, the Nazis werent socialist at all. They may have been called the National Socialist German Workers Party, however, most, in fact all of Drexlers (the founder of the NSDAP(Nazi Party)) oroginal socialist cum leftist policies were abandoned. The Nazis 1922 25 point programe constructed by Hitler and strasser had few leftist policies, with most being ultra right policies. However, following Hitlers imprisonment in Langsburg castle following the failed Munich ‘Beer hall’ Putsch of 1923 where Hitler wrote Mein Kampf he made it clear that he had no intention of following any of the initial slightly leftist policies. So in answer to you saying Nazism was socialism, the answer is no. You just got “boyed out”.

    The fact is that people can enter the UK, yet Brits can just as easily move to other countries.

    “while we are being over-run”

    You what!?!? A couple thousand people entre the UK who arent oroginally from the UK, shock horror. They are going to rape our good ol’ british women, pillage our nation, and they may even contaminate the the pure british blood line, mein Fuhrer. That sounds like Nazi anti-semetic scaremongering to me. People enter the UK and fill job vacancies. They don’t com in and ‘take our jobs’. We don’t see Poles or croats, or romanians or africans … running onto building sites or into shopping centres and physicaly taking the job of some ‘good ol’ brit’ All that happenes is that migrant workers fill a vacacy in the labour market. The do jobs that aren’t being done, they done come along and physically wrestle a job out of someones hands.

  34. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Calum, the fact that you are 16 explains many things, the main being your obsession with political correctness and your naivete. Believe me, when you grow older, perhaps as old as me (28) you’ll understand many things. Amongs those things will be the fact that political correctness is being used for thought control rather than protection of minorities, the fact that immigration serves political survival of socialist parties and big business rather tnah ordinary people like little naive Calum and many many other.

    By the way, your way of thinking is not about thinking at all – it is all about repeating what authorities told you and labelling opponent rather that arguing with him. It is what I call “politically correct way of thinking” (PCWoT). PCWoT is based upon the use of “labelling words” – racism, nazism, anti-semitism, paedophilia and so on. When person is taking over by PCWoT, he/she is not arguing with opponent, but merely labels him/her with labelling words, don’t even noticing that they are completely out of tough with the subject. E.g. when I told that immigration must be stopped you called me racist – but actually racism has nothing to do with this point. When you was told that we are being overrun, you labelled that man Nazist and anti-semit straight away, once again missing the point that his post had nothing to do with claiming one race superior and proclaiming exetermination of Jews. Calum, you are hopelessly dumb. Politically-correct rottweiler. Must be deported to your beloved Africa.

  35. Scaffold (146 comments) says:

    Update – 28 in parentheses has been converted into smilie.

  36. Calum (183 comments) says:

    OK. I haven’t once called you an anti-semite. I merely said that some of you comments, such as those wherein you insinuated an isea of racial superiority/racial division by saying all races have a certian home place sounded akin to the ideas of Volksgemeinshaft and would fit with the philosophy of the world being Herrenvolk and Untermensch.

    Furthermore, the one thing i agree with you on is that PC can act as a gag on people. However, what i have said to you hasn’t been out of PC sensibilities, but out of a sense of decency, bourne out of what i beleive to be right and wrong. And to honest i think a lot of what you have said is just wrong, and a load of Biggoted nonsense.

    Furthermore, you may think i am some niave fool who appears to do what he is told. That is shit. I may well be niave to a certian extent, but no more than you my biggoted, narrow minded friend. So when you have stopped lombasting me merely because you are a few years older than me, how about you shut your effig mouth and listen to what i have had to say. You are a biggot, and have come accross as a racist. Apparantlety, just because i don’t share your warped view of the world i am a niave dick. Well no. I view thing differentley to you, and i am sure that as time progresses my views may well change, in fact i fully expect them to. However, some things will never change, such as my unshakable beleif that you are a biggoted fool, that your right wing shit is a black spot on democracy, that i cannot spell and will contonue to have numerous typos in my posts (sorry about all of them, i am dyslexic) also my unshakable immovable beleif that people like you shoul be shut up, with logic not force. That people who share such narrow views should be politicially ostracised, as keip at the fringe of political thought.

    End of.

  37. Lord Balfour - scotsman (1 comments) says:

    “…every black asylum seeker with 12 children has a right for getting a home in the UK and preaching islamification of Europe while getting payouts enough for luxury living”

    Calum:
    [that comment] Sounds a bit like racist bigotary to me.

    Why does it? Calum, you’re the bigot.

    “I am merely defending the right of white peole to shut the borders to the ones of other colours and creeds.”

    Calum:
    That sounds like blatant racism to me.

    Well Calum why don’t you go and protest to the Indian high commission/embassy because India doesnt like to let anyone in as immigrants. That is just the same as Israel. Go on then you hypocrite go tell those two states they are racist bigots.
    Tosser!!!!

    By the way Lord Balfour’s treaty aint working out!

  38. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Hey, “Lord Balfour” WTF?

    Tell me why am i a biggot?

    Also, India actually have a fairly hight immigrant population, with many migrating from banglaqdesh, along with numerous westerns moving to India to work. Also, you cannot compare India and the UK in such a manner. The UK is a developed nation compared to the developing India, who allready have a population of over 1.2bn people. Additionally, the only reason there isnt mass migration to India, isnt because the Govt is preventing it, it is because not many people move there. Infact india are trying to encourage westerners to migrate to india, to help their economic boom. I was in India this easter, so you should have picked somewhere else to cite, somewhere i couln’t counter well.

    Also, Balfours decleration saying the UK’s intent to create a Jewish homeland is fine, and could work, were all parties commited to a solution. On this topic, we should defend the Jews, who have at last a homeland, after over 3000 years of waiting.

  39. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    Calum, Israel is a whole other subject and I’m quite happy to post something for you to reply to.

    Bangladeshi immigrants in India are different to immigrants here. In colonial times, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were the same place. Pakistan and Bangladesh were hived off from India as one country – Pakistan. Present-day Pakistan was West Pakistan and Bangladesh was East Pakistan.

    Bangladeshi immigrants in India is equivalent to Irish immigrants in England.

  40. Calum (183 comments) says:

    Hey, i’m not the one who cited India as an example.

    Furthermore, one cannot compare Idia and the developing world to the so called developed world as was done in a pervious comment.

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