Give me my referendum you lying scumbag

! This post hasn't been updated in over a year. A lot can change in a year including my opinion and the amount of naughty words I use. There's a good chance that there's something in what's written below that someone will find objectionable. That's fine, if I tried to please everybody all of the time then I'd be a Lib Dem (remember them?) and I'm certainly not one of those. The point is, I'm not the kind of person to try and alter history in case I said something in the past that someone can use against me in the future but just remember that the person I was then isn't the person I am now nor the person I'll be in a year's time.

Traitor Blair has reneged on his promise to give us a referendum on the EU Constitution.

The lying, coniving, fuckwit scumbag traitor says that it’s not a Constitution, it’s an “amending treaty”.  This is, of course, a complete and utter filthy lie.  The treaty that he will agree to next week is the EU Constitution that was rejected by the Dutch and French in a referendum and that he himself declared to be “dead” minus the three quarters of the treacherous treaty that’s already been slipped in through the back door.

If Angela Merkel gets her way (and she usually does), the treaty will give the EU a “single legal personality”, introduce majority voting on more policy areas including criminal law and foreign policy and create an EU Foreign Minister and full time EU President.  Merkel also describes the renaming and repackaging of the EU Constitution as a “major concession” and says that it will only happen as long as the “substance” of the original EU Constitution treaty is preserved.  Changing the name from Constitution to Treaty doesn’t change what it is – especially when the “substance” of the treaty is the same.

Blair and the Dutch and French governments have all said that the Treaty for the EU Constitution needs to be simplified so they can bypass the electorate and not hold referenda.

The Tories have called for a referendum on “the type of Europe we want to see”, the Illiberal Dipshits are saying that “criminals and terrorists are free to bomb their way across Europe” because we haven’t handed the country over to the EU and UKIP are demanding a referendum on pulling out of the EU altogether and returning back to what was agreed to in a referendum 50 years ago – a Common Market.

Merkel – the German Chancellor and EU Chief Propagandist – says that we have to have this treaty to make the enlarged EU function properly.  One observation and one solution love – we didn’t want an enlarged EU in the first place and we can easily make the EU smaller and easier to manage for you by leaving it and spending our several billion pound euro-subsidy on ourselves.

Any further transfer of sovereignty to the EU is an act of treachery, plain and simple.  Power is loaned to government, it is not given and no government can bind its successors.  Bliar has no right to give away any more of our sovereignty to the EU – it isn’t his to give away, it’s ours.

I was promised a referendum and I expect it Blair.  Do you hear me you lying, cheating, traitor?

38 comments

  1. KeithS (80 comments) says:

    Thanks Wonko for voicing this country’s very real concerns in this matter. I think it apalling that someone who is on his way out of office can just ignore promises previously made to the electorate, sign up to an agreement he knows is totally unwanted, then fuck off in order to receive his rewards from the EU at a later date.
    Your statement just about sume up the sheer contempt that the majority of politicians across Europe hold their electorate in.
    Democracy my arse! I see no purpose voting for any politician in any election unless they’re committed to getting us out of this unwanted, unelected Union.

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  3. Hereward arise! (4 comments) says:

    The Blairs are pure filth mate! Go to the following link and take a look.
    http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/

    AND THIS WAS TEN YEARS AGO MATE!

    The media say Blair will be the most hated pm for some time.
    I say he’ll be the most hated OF ALL TIME!

  4. KeithS (80 comments) says:

    Here we go…
    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=6189

    second item down.

  5. William Humbold Jr (1 comments) says:

    Referendum online about Europe. Vote Yes to Free Europe Constitution at http://www.FreeEurope.info

  6. jerry (78 comments) says:

    I dont have a fuckn clue what ur problem is I myself am german and have lived in dublin for 4 years and I have followed the progress towards a united europe and frankly if u dont want to be in the EU then fuck off!Then dont be a member lets see how far ur shitty economy will bring u without free trade with other EU countries!And for fuck sake take that pic of merkel down because she is not a fuckin nazi just like the other 80 million!It seems to me that ur the facist here,Liberal dipshits?I mean what the fuck is ur fuckn problem?Why dont u go outside and beat up some not purely english people ya fag!!

  7. Shytot (1 comments) says:

    Jerry – you seem to be the one with a problem – you have the perfect blinkered and unwavering vision of a true Eurocrat. This page appears tobe anti EU not pro EU. Your sort of attitude is really helpful for the anti EU people – so thanks for that. I guess it’s tough to differentiate between fascismm and communism although both choose to ignore the will of the people,. co mayb ewe nee dMerkel dressed as Stalin to , just for balance. Oh and since you are now living in a country which doesn’t seem to agree with your view – maybe you should move back to Germany!

  8. jerry (78 comments) says:

    how about you cut the racist crap and take a look at the situation.Face it england maybe an important country in international politics but what are you really without EU or american support?
    Hey the americans are invading Iraq illegaly,how about we follow their lead,get hundreds of soldiers killed but have american support on our side?
    You cant deny that Blair only followed Bush because he wanted the international support.
    Now theres probably gone be a new goverment in america which does not support the Bush era,what are wou gonna do?
    A Union needs the full support of its members to work properly and Im just saying if you keep rejecting everything that comes from the EU,you should maybe leave instead of weaken the Union!
    You keep blaming the problems on the EU when its mostly the goverments of the countries that made the mess and think they can just blaim it on the EU.
    This Union is the stabil thing europe has had for decads and I just dont want to see it get broken apart only because some people think that their goverments can do evrything better than others.

  9. jerry (78 comments) says:

    By the way I live in Brussels at the moment.
    I am actually only 15 but I already have the maturity to see not just whats good for me but also for others.
    Im sorry about my first comment but articles like that just get me worked up.
    I have lived in Berlin,Dublin,Prague and now Brussels.
    I believe in the EU because I grew up with the Idea of diffrent counries working together to achieve a common goal and so far its worked great.
    People have to make compromises and if wou cant do that than start a campaign to get england out but if you really cared about uniting europe you would make those compromises.
    The EU is not communist or facist,its not gonna tell you how to live your life or what you have to watch.
    If you still believe that a union is communist for trying to actually unite countries than I think you are still stuck in the cold war.
    Countries have to adapt and be flexible to form a strong EU, so that older european countries can keep up with China or India in the future.If you want your country to stay on top in the world support the EU.

  10. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    After reading your first comment I was going to reply and say that you were obviously a naive child but hey, you saved me a job. A 15 year old kid brainwashed in three eurofederalist countries is hardly the most reliable source of information on one of the most corrupt bureaucracies in history.

    We don’t need the EU at all – the democratic and financial cost of being in the EU far outweighs any benefits. I can’t believe that people are stupid enough to think the EU is the bringer of peace to the continent – there have been countless civil wars, genocide, overthrown governments, the communist takeover of Eastern Europe, the invasion and partition of Cyprus and often brutal European colonialism in Africa and all since the Second World War when the EU has supposedly brought peace and prosperity!

    I don’t give a flying fuck if Europe suffers because we’ve left the EU – what matters is what we in England want and that is to leave the EU and govern ourselves. When you’ve grown up into a big strong boy and lived in the real world for a bit, come back and give us your opinions.

  11. jerry (78 comments) says:

    What the hell are you?
    Me,Me,Me,Me,Me,Me.
    Thats all you think about isnt it?
    And by the way,who had the most colonies in africa and around the world e.g.south africa.
    Oh yeah that was england wasnt it?
    And how about you cut your brainwash crap.
    There are european schools in brussels how about you come and visit and see for yourself?
    What is the real world for you?
    Maybe one where england doesnt need to be afraid about its economy or free trade because they are so great?
    How about you start living in the real world?
    And why are you talking about the civil wars when you clearly dont give a shit about anyone else but english people?
    How about wou tell the other 3000 students at my school that they have been brainwashed by the EU because they all still have their own opinions and have just learned to work and make compromises, which you have clearly not. And these are kids for gods sake!Even english ones. And how about you tell the 30000 EU employes that they afe evil because you said that the EU is evil.
    How about you broaden your horizons and stop being so fucking self centred!

  12. jerry (78 comments) says:

    And did you know that germany actually pays the biggest amount of money to the EU? You dont see them complaining,they make the best out off it and had the biggest economic growth in the whole of europe!

  13. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    Did you know that Germany has a population of 82m compared to the population of the UK which is only 60m? Of course they should pay for more and I don’t doubt they make the most of it – they run the whole of the EU along with the French!

    Did you know that two European leaders tried to form a political European Union before this one? The first was Napolean and the second was Hitler.

    Me,Me,Me,Me,Me,Me.
    Thats all you think about isnt it?

    Mostly but I also think of my 50m fellow countrymen and, of course, my kids. I’d quite like for my kids to be able to grow up and live in England, not the Federal European Region of the West Midlands or the Federal European Regional of Trans-Marche.

    And by the way,who had the most colonies in africa and around the world e.g.south africa.
    Oh yeah that was england wasnt it?

    No, it was Britain. Britain and England are different. Brutality on the part of the British in Africa was also perpetrated under the EU’s watch. You’ve just confirmed that.

    Maybe one where england doesnt need to be afraid about its economy or free trade because they are so great?

    We buy more from the EU than we sell to it. We sell more to the US than we do to the EU. If we weren’t in the EU we would be able to have preferential trade agreements with the Commonwealth but the EU forbids that. In short, the EU needs our trade more than we need theirs and that would put us in an excellent position to negotiate free trade agreements like the Swiss and Norweigans. It would also allow us to align our trade with North America where we do most of our business like Greenland did when it left the EU.

    And why are you talking about the civil wars when you clearly dont give a shit about anyone else but english people?

    To show you that the eurofederalists are talking bullshit when they tell you that the EU has brought peace to the continent. They haven’t – the Germans, for instance, don’t need to invade another European country because they already make three quarters of our laws through the EU. I assume you know that German and France meet before every EU summit so they can decide what is going to happen?

    How about you broaden your horizons and stop being so fucking self centred!

    See, you’re doing it again. You don’t know me so how do you know I need to broaden my horizons? When I was your age I was a eurofederalist too. I even voted Liberal Democrat when I was younger for which I, once again, apologise to the nation. When I got to experience the reality of the EU federal project I changed my mind because I saw it for what it is. I will be in the Netherlands later this year with our best friends because my wife and I are godparents to their first daughter. In the last month I’ve chatted to friends in the Netherlands, France, Belgium, Australia and Portugal. I chatted in part French, Part English to my French friend and part Dutch, part English to my Belgian and Dutch friends. If I broaden my horizons any fucking further I’ll be looking at the back of my head.

  14. jerry (78 comments) says:

    france and germany have so much power because they have a big population and in democracy, the majority has the power.Thats not always great but do you have a better system than democracy?And like I said nobody is forcing the english population to stay in the EU,if the majority wants out than its their job and your job to get england out.

  15. jerry (78 comments) says:

    what do you mean britain is diffrent?
    maybe nazi germany and germany are diffrent?
    that would be great, than no german would ever have to justify the brutalities of the second world war.
    Britain may have had a diffrent system but its still your history and in the second world war, germany also had a diffrent system,dictatorship,so great we are off the hook too.

  16. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    ‘maybe nazi germany and germany are diffrent?’

    Germany as a nation was barely 60 years old in 1933, prior to 1870
    ‘Germany’ was a region. Nazi Germany can be seen as a passing phase in central european politics\history.

  17. jerry (78 comments) says:

    firstly I knew that,I am german myself and secondly again whats your point?

  18. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    ‘what do you mean britain is diffrent?’

    England can be seen and regarded as an independent entity, it can feed and clothe itself adequately and make enough from trade to prosper.

    Britain, on the other hand also has scotland and Wales and ireland dragging england back.

    Not being an expert on mick or taff history i can only really pass comment on the scottish contribution, to the empire, we probably provided a fair amount of able administraters and brain boxes but mostly we provided cannon fodder, that is the scottish way fighting is a valid way to live, and instead of fighting each other, the empire shipped them out to the 4 corners of the world and became a roaring success.

    So, england in isoltion, probably would not have been able to accquire (and maintain) such a large empire.

    Scotland on its own is a cold shitty place, england/britain benefitted by having a relatively inexhaustable supply of people who liked to fight but were just as happy fighting their neighbours as they were fighting Bavarians/French

    Without the empire\britain scotland would still be a cold shitty place probably like a former yugoslave republic and without the empire/britain england would probably have a huge mine field and frre fire zone in Cumbria/Northumberland.

  19. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    a bit more wibbly and incoherent than usual but just think of the theme and you wiull get what i am trying to say

    my BP is giving me major head kill today :((

  20. jerry (78 comments) says:

    I agree but that doesnt mean england isnt responsble for its history, that was the point I was trying to make.

  21. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    what our grand parents did, does not make us bad people but hopefully, we can learn from their mistakes!

  22. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    is bavaria responsible for german history?

  23. jerry (78 comments) says:

    Amen to that!

  24. jerry (78 comments) says:

    I didnt mean to insult you but the guy before you was trying to make it sound like that england didnt have anything to do with britain and its colonies.
    By the way amen to
    what our grand parents did, does not make us bad people but hopefully, we can learn from their mistakes!

    not to the one with bavaria

  25. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    so, if bavaria is exempt from being responsible for ‘german’ history, surely england should be exempt for being responsible for ‘british’ history?

    Insult me if you want, i dont mind, i just like to argue 😉

  26. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    Jerry, what I mean by England and Britain are different is that they’re different countries. The empire was British, not English. There was an English Empire and that ended in 1707 when the Act of Union was signed and Britain was formed. Then there was a British Empire and the British were responsible for whatever dodgy goings on occurred in Africa. I’m not British, I’m English. Saying the English were responsible for the British Empire is like saying the Italians were responsible for the Roman Empire. Neither existed as a political entity at the time the empire was built.

    Let’s just agree to disagree. Like I said, when you’ve lived in the real world and seen what damage the EU does to us then you might change your mind.

    Oh and I know the EU puts teaching material into schools because I’ve seen some of it and it’s been in the news here at different times.

  27. jerry (78 comments) says:

    for crying out loud the schools do no teach fuckin EU propaganda.Only because you read about in some newspaper doesnt make it so.
    I have benn going to a european school for one year now and it is just like any other school only with more nationalities and language sections.
    We have the teaching plan of any other normal school and I have never seen a pamphlet or book in that school where it says that the EU the greatest.
    Go to the website http://www.eeb1.com and see for yourself and get some information before you try telling me Im being brainwashed.

  28. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    You won’t even know that what you’re getting is EU-sponsored propaganda. It’ll just be wrapped up into the curriculum. When did a teacher last tell you somethign bad about the EU?

  29. jerry (78 comments) says:

    we generally dont talk about the EU in school because we are supposed to make up our own mind.We are still stuck in the first world war in history

  30. jerry (78 comments) says:

    we have the same GCSE books as the english kids are getting in their schools

  31. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    Well when you move on to the second world war, come back and tell us if they tell you about Hitler’s proposal for a European Union. And when you get past the second world war, come back and tell us if they tell you about all the other conflicts and genocide that the EU has failed to prevent and if they talk about the EU being formed let us know if they tell you about the Schuman Declaration that said – right at the beginning – that this was a first step to a federal Europe. Oh and be sure to let us know if they tell you about darling Frau Merkel’s time in the East German Communist Party and the anti-democratic milita she was in.

  32. jerry (78 comments) says:

    what are you expecting?The super school that teaches you everything?And the world wide community has also failed in preventing genocides that includes england,so its more a worldwide problem.

  33. jerry (78 comments) says:

    Hitler also started building a system of motorways in germany which are now the well known autobahnen and a very good transport system in germany,so is that bad too?

  34. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    Wow, that almost makes up for the genocide.

  35. jerry (78 comments) says:

    thats not my point. my point is that if a dictator suggests something it isnt automaticly bad

  36. Axel (1214 comments) says:

    so, there is going to be a bitch slapping in the playground after work?

    😛

  37. Kris (1 comments) says:

    I agree with the author about the EU, and so do many, but not all of my fellow countrymen, because a few of them are ignorant, mis-informed brainwashed idiots like the majority of all other Europeans.

    Yet there’s one thing the author doesn’t quite get. It’s not “the French” or “the Germans”, whose will is being forced upon the rest of the EU member countries. It’s the will of the global New-world-order motherf***xx*. We didn’t have our referendum, too, and we also aren’t being asked whether we like what the EU commissioners force upon us. That East-German ugly traitor fuck Merkel is not the problem, because she’s just a puppet like all the others. I say people of Europe should unite for one sole purpose, on one fine day, and burn down this shithouse of Brussels to get rid of those bastards once and for all. All of ’em.

    But that won’t happen as long as we keep bashing each other. I love all the European countries I’ve been too, and I love all the European people. And I hate the EU, because it’ll never give a flying fuck about one of us.

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