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	<title>Comments on: Number 10 promoting Liebour websites again?</title>
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	<description>I&#039;m not the Messiah, I&#039;m a very naughty boy</description>
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		<title>By: wonkotsane</title>
		<link>http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2008/06/26/number-10-promoting-liebour-websites-again/comment-page-1/#comment-20135</link>
		<dc:creator>wonkotsane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the content at eusummit.govblogs.co.uk is available from another address?  Is it hosted on one of your servers or on a British government server?

Iain Dale&#039;s blog - to reuse your example - is hosted on Blogger but also accessible from the domain iaindale.com.  Are you saying that there&#039;s no site at iaindale.com?  Taking this blog as another example - the subdomain blog.wonkosworld.co.uk will get you the content at www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress but would you say there was no site at blogs.wonkosworld.co.uk?

I could create a subdomain here to point at a British government website but the difference between me doing it and you doing it is that the British government isn&#039;t sending an email to people pointing them at my domain and passing it off as an official government website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the content at eusummit.govblogs.co.uk is available from another address?  Is it hosted on one of your servers or on a British government server?</p>
<p>Iain Dale&#8217;s blog &#8211; to reuse your example &#8211; is hosted on Blogger but also accessible from the domain iaindale.com.  Are you saying that there&#8217;s no site at iaindale.com?  Taking this blog as another example &#8211; the subdomain blog.wonkosworld.co.uk will get you the content at <a href="http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress">http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress</a> but would you say there was no site at blogs.wonkosworld.co.uk?</p>
<p>I could create a subdomain here to point at a British government website but the difference between me doing it and you doing it is that the British government isn&#8217;t sending an email to people pointing them at my domain and passing it off as an official government website.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dickson</title>
		<link>http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2008/06/26/number-10-promoting-liebour-websites-again/comment-page-1/#comment-20134</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry if I didn&#039;t make myself entirely clear.

There is no site at www.govblogs.co.uk, just a default holding page. There is no government project to use govblogs.co.uk. I own govblogs.co.uk, and not HM Government. I have not charged Downing Street for the use of a subdomain of govblogs.co.uk.

You&#039;re wrong to say that &#039;govblogs.co.uk says it’s Crown Copyright&#039;. The site at the eusummit.govblogs.co.uk subdomain consists of Crown Copyright material. Ownership of a domain, and ownership of the content on a site located at a subdomain, is perfectly normal. (Google does not own the contents of Iain Dale&#039;s Blogspot-hosted site, for example.)

You&#039;re welcome to ask the question whether No10 is promoting a Labour website. But I&#039;m afraid the answer&#039;s a pretty flat &#039;no&#039;, so you might want to add a &#039;No&#039; to the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry if I didn&#8217;t make myself entirely clear.</p>
<p>There is no site at <a href="http://www.govblogs.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.govblogs.co.uk</a>, just a default holding page. There is no government project to use govblogs.co.uk. I own govblogs.co.uk, and not HM Government. I have not charged Downing Street for the use of a subdomain of govblogs.co.uk.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong to say that &#8216;govblogs.co.uk says it’s Crown Copyright&#8217;. The site at the eusummit.govblogs.co.uk subdomain consists of Crown Copyright material. Ownership of a domain, and ownership of the content on a site located at a subdomain, is perfectly normal. (Google does not own the contents of Iain Dale&#8217;s Blogspot-hosted site, for example.)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome to ask the question whether No10 is promoting a Labour website. But I&#8217;m afraid the answer&#8217;s a pretty flat &#8216;no&#8217;, so you might want to add a &#8216;No&#8217; to the title.</p>
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		<title>By: wonkotsane</title>
		<link>http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2008/06/26/number-10-promoting-liebour-websites-again/comment-page-1/#comment-20131</link>
		<dc:creator>wonkotsane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>govblogs.co.uk says it&#039;s Crown Copyright and uses the headers and footers of the Downing Street website to look like a government website. If this is a private enterprise set up, presumably for a fee from the British government, then why does it say it&#039;s Crown Copyright and why does it say that it&#039;s registered to a non-trading private individual?

Is govblogs.co.uk a personal site of yours or a website provided to the British government for a fee and who owns the content - you or the Crown?

I&#039;ve added a note to the bottom of the post to say you&#039;ve said you have nothing to do with Liebour but the title is a question, it doesn&#039;t need changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>govblogs.co.uk says it&#8217;s Crown Copyright and uses the headers and footers of the Downing Street website to look like a government website. If this is a private enterprise set up, presumably for a fee from the British government, then why does it say it&#8217;s Crown Copyright and why does it say that it&#8217;s registered to a non-trading private individual?</p>
<p>Is govblogs.co.uk a personal site of yours or a website provided to the British government for a fee and who owns the content &#8211; you or the Crown?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added a note to the bottom of the post to say you&#8217;ve said you have nothing to do with Liebour but the title is a question, it doesn&#8217;t need changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dickson</title>
		<link>http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2008/06/26/number-10-promoting-liebour-websites-again/comment-page-1/#comment-20130</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m Simon Dickson. I&#039;m a website consultant - and for the record, I&#039;m not a Labour donor. You&#039;ll find me at the top of Google&#039;s search results for my name.

I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s a pretty straightforward, and slightly boring story. The Downing St team are mid-way through preparing some significant DNS changes to the various .gov.uk domains they hold. It was going to be confusing to suddenly introduce a new gov.uk subdomain for the Brussels summit travel-blog. So instead, *I* purchased the govblogs.co.uk domain, using 123-reg: the same company I use to manage (almost) all my domain registrations, due to their excellent rates and flexible control system. It cost me a couple of quid, and took a couple of minutes - and the problem was solved. I own the domain, not HMG.

There&#039;s no great conspiracy here, I&#039;m afraid. And since I&#039;m not connected with the Labour Party, and stress my political neutrality in all my business activity, I would be grateful if you would amend your article and its headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m Simon Dickson. I&#8217;m a website consultant &#8211; and for the record, I&#8217;m not a Labour donor. You&#8217;ll find me at the top of Google&#8217;s search results for my name.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s a pretty straightforward, and slightly boring story. The Downing St team are mid-way through preparing some significant DNS changes to the various .gov.uk domains they hold. It was going to be confusing to suddenly introduce a new gov.uk subdomain for the Brussels summit travel-blog. So instead, *I* purchased the govblogs.co.uk domain, using 123-reg: the same company I use to manage (almost) all my domain registrations, due to their excellent rates and flexible control system. It cost me a couple of quid, and took a couple of minutes &#8211; and the problem was solved. I own the domain, not HMG.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no great conspiracy here, I&#8217;m afraid. And since I&#8217;m not connected with the Labour Party, and stress my political neutrality in all my business activity, I would be grateful if you would amend your article and its headline.</p>
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		<title>By: revinkevin</title>
		<link>http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2008/06/26/number-10-promoting-liebour-websites-again/comment-page-1/#comment-20101</link>
		<dc:creator>revinkevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something fishy about this.

It it is a government site why has it got a .co.uk domain instead of a .gov.uk

The copyright for the EUssr summit page goes to the number 10 copyright page, claiming to be crown copyright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something fishy about this.</p>
<p>It it is a government site why has it got a .co.uk domain instead of a .gov.uk</p>
<p>The copyright for the EUssr summit page goes to the number 10 copyright page, claiming to be crown copyright.</p>
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