Comments on: Home Office: European Citizenship does not exsist [sic]

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:10:06 +0000

….the benign nature of the ‘eu citizenship, that is.
(Mark, Ireland)

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:09:08 +0000

Now, since Lisbon was passed (partly thanks to a rigged referendum in Ireland), it is stated that EU citizenship confers a set of rights and OBLIGATIONS on their conscripted mass of citizens.
Which puts the response quoted from your Parliamentary proceedings about it’s benign nature redundant.

By: Anne Palmer.

Anne Palmer. — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:12:48 +0000

A little time has now passed so I will ask a question if I may? When anyone wishes to take up another Citizenship because they may want to live in another Country, there is a great deal of forms to fill up, some-times medicals are needed before hand too. When did any of you fill in such forms to become citizens of another Country (State of?)When did YOU ask to become an EU Citizens? Were you asked if you wanted to have extra Duties put upon you for doing so?

If you cannot answer any of those questions, then tell me why did you vote for MP’s that brought this problematic matter into being? More importantly, when the next election comes round, are you going to vote for those same people AGAIN?

By: Anne Palmer

Anne Palmer — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:17:59 +0000

Hundreds (And I wish it was millions) of people here in the UK have formally “renounced” the European Citizenship that was thrust upon them at Maastricht. That is if one can renounce such a thing as a concept of EU citizenship? When a person holds “dual” citizenship, it is possible to renounce one, but the British people have the dilemma of a person who has an EU citizenship that has been forced upon them, of which they cannot dispose, yet may be ‘found’ to be disloyal to that same European citizenship to a European Identity which they might want nothing what-so-ever to do with.

For the first time in British history under the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002, the Home Secretary of the day gave himself the power to remove the British citizenship of a person born here in the UK, providing in so doing, it does not make anyone “stateless”. (As stated in international law) In projecting forward, should the EU turn into one state it would be an easy matter to use that Act to remove everyone’s British citizenship status just leaving us with EU citizenship. It was this thinking in 2002 as the Bill proceeded its way through Parliament that made me try to get rid of EU citizenship. The thinking behind the removal of the enforced EU Citizenship was that ‘they’ could not, according to ‘International law’ then remove my British citizenship and leave me “stateless”.

By: axel

axel — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:17:44 +0000

Lord ‘someone is wearing garlic, i can smell it’ Tebbit, asks about subjects but is answered about citizens, is this a valid answer?

By: The Secret Person

The Secret Person — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:25:11 +0000

I can find it: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/2004/oct/11/eu-citizenship

” Lord Tebbit

asked Her Majesty’s Government:

What record they have of the number of United Kingdom subjects who have rejected citizenship of the European Union; and what arrangements they have put in place to accommodate their rejection. [HL4189]

§ Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean

Since the entry into force of the Maastricht Treaty “every citizen holding a nationality of a Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall complement and not replace national citizenship.” (TEC Article 17.1). Because it is a consequence of their UK citizenship individual UK citizens cannot separately renounce EU citizenship. They can however choose not to exercise the rights that EU citizenship brings, such as the rights to travel visa-free, study, work, and retire throughout the EU; to live in any EU country, and take out a mortgage, open a bank account, claim free or reduced cost emergency medical care or vote in local and European Parliament elections there; and, in a third country where there is no British Embassy, to get consular help or protection from any EU member state embassy.”

By: The Secret Person

The Secret Person — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:23:01 +0000

I think there is a parliamentary answer somewhere saying you can’t renounce EU citizenship without renouncing British citizenship. I can’t find it now, but it is related to your quote from the Justice and Home Affairs website.

By: Charlie Marks

Charlie Marks — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:48:48 +0000

Wonder what the situation is with the laws in other EU countries? If they refer to EU citizenship or not. To the best of my knowledge, those being made UK citizens to not swear an oath of alliegance to the European Commission…

By: tbrrob

tbrrob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:10:46 +0000

This is great — keep up the good work.

By: axel

axel — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:03:15 +0000

I thought we were ‘British Subjects’?

I recall from somewhere else or sometime else there was some hoo hah about the change in our status from being subjects to citizens