Climate change propagandists are getting desperate

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A massive gathering of climate change propagandists in Denmark have upped the stakes in the increasingly ludicrous and alarmist game of apocalyptic predictions.
The current prediction by the propagandists is that sea levels will rise by about 2ft in the next few years but not enough people are panicking and throwing money at them to save the world so they’ve decided it’s now going to be somewhere between 3.5ft and 5ft.

The “scientist” who seems to have come up with the new prediction is Konrad Steffan.  I can’t find much about him other than the fact that he’s backed by Nasa and has made a lucrative career out of climate change, appearing in a film and a book on the subject.

Unfortunately, as money gets tighter, the propagandists are going to come up with more and more batshit scare stories to try and justify the massive grants they need to fund the expensive lifestyles to which they’ve become accustomed on our taxes.  Expect to see more of this kind of alarmist, scientifically baseless shit as time goes on.
On a related note, it was good to see Prince Charles doing his bit for the environment, flying to South America on a chartered jet and travelling by stretch limo with a 6 car motorcade to talk about climate change.  I wonder if the Brazilians will show him the cast swathes of CO2 recycling rainforest that are being cleared to grow crops for biofuels?

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12 comments

  1. axel (1214 comments) says:

    climate change is happening, for whatever reason but the main driver is the uncontrolled population growth, I’m sure Malthus will have a good view on it.

    We are rich and can afford expensive green electric, surely all the developement money should be going to India, where it is sunny all the time and solar power will be, if anywhere, there, a valid option?

  2. des332 (2 comments) says:

    Climate change has nothing to do with humans, the climate will always change and always has we are just along for the ride and veing taken for a ride by the goverment. Incidently the construction of solar panels releases a green house gas 17000 times more potent that co2

  3. Roger (1 comments) says:

    Prince Charles is rich enough to be able to say “do as I say, not as I do”.

  4. axel (1214 comments) says:

    I wonder…….

    Does England lose out in the scale of things?

    A car factory in Wales is more important to the Welsh, than an english car factory is to the english

    Now, stick with me on this bit, i’m not quite sure where it is going, Wales, Ulster And Scotland are just glorified ‘regions’.

    I’ll talk about scotland, since it is what i know. If we compare Liverpool\Manchester (I think it is north west region?!?!) to scotland, their populations are relatively similair, as is their employment spread. Rates\levels of deprivation are also remarkably similair and this is why i am
    using it. Liverpool and Glasgow are both blots on the landscape but Liverpool as part of England is small and insignificant in comparison with Glasgow as part of scotland and this is where england loses out.

    So the same for Wales and the car factory, there the car factory has everyone running about like heedless chickens but in shropshire ,it does’nt even wake the whips.

    Another example is health boards and reporting problems, up here it is specific health boards we hear about but English news seems to be about the health service in general (all england).

    discuss

  5. Charlie Marks (365 comments) says:

    “A car factory in Wales is more important to the Welsh, than an english car factory is to the english” – there’s no truth in this, axel.

    Unemployment is being spread more evenly across England in this recession than previous ones, and the massive restrictions placed upon workers organisational ability through the anti-union laws, coupled with the subservience of many union leaderships to New Labour, mean that job losses are often harder to get attention than in Scotland or Wales, where the nationalists are competing for Labour votes.

  6. axel (1214 comments) says:

    anti union laws? i thought the main point of these was to democratise union action and prevent secondary picketing?

    “A car factory in Wales is more SIGNIFICANT to the Welsh, than an english car factory is to the english” how about that?

    that is, a factory employing 1,000 people in wales, with a population of 2 million (?) is more significant than a factory employing 1,000 in england with a population of 50 million

    or the car factory is as significant to wales as it is to West Midlands region but because wales has power and money to do things……

    am i circling making sense?

  7. Stan (222 comments) says:

    “anti union laws? i thought the main point of these was to democratise union action and prevent secondary picketing?”

    No, the main point of them was to help our “beloved” Furher Thatcher destroy the unions and get the workers by the balls.
    I would argue that stopping secondary picketing is the same as stopping whites from joining anti-racist demos and straight people from going to gay pride meetings. In a democracy you should be allowed a right to peacefully protest for or against anything you want.
    I would also argue that the anti-union laws have helped reduce most of the UK’s primary and secondary industries.

    “A car factory in Wales is more SIGNIFICANT to the Welsh, than an english car factory is to the english” how about that?

    I think I get what you mean. Like when the coal mines closed in Kent and Nottingham, at least the miners had a (slim) chance to get work elsewhere, but in Wales it meant the destruction of whole villages and communities.

  8. axel (1214 comments) says:

    stan: are you saying a democratic union is a bad thing? Yes, it worked, it worked very well, the radical reform of union power was a counterpoint\flip side\ accompaniment to Big Bang and its change to the finance system

    secondary picketing, let me think about this, we are both circling correct

    let me try again about the car factory

    A car factory in wales represents the whole car industry in wales and so will be protected but a single car factory in england is a wee section of the car industry, so it will provoke less interest !?! how about that?

  9. Stan (222 comments) says:

    “stan: are you saying a democratic union is a bad thing?”

    God no, I just think it’s odd that you can protest against most things unless you are a member of another union joining a picket line.

    “A car factory in wales represents the whole car industry in wales and so will be protected but a single car factory in england is a wee section of the car industry, so it will provoke less interest !?! how about that?”

    I can live with that : )

  10. axel (1214 comments) says:

    stan: back to the point, is a democratic union a bad thing? A site votes to take action, so among other things it can do, is it can go on strike, and potentially close the factory, fair enough.

    But then if the strikers go off and post flying pickets on another factory, preventing it working, causing it to lose money, there must be some accountability and payback and this is the kicker because all union action must be voted on in an accepted democratic way sanctioned by the union rules, it becomes the unions financial responsibility for any production lost at an un connected factory.

    You can still protest and picket anywhere you want but if you use union facilities to make this happen, you must also accept union liabilities on the outcome.

    just as you are allowed to have a few weeks to think about who you vote for in a general election and you have a cooling off period for bank loans, you now have time to think about industrial action and its consequences, instead of being led by a rabble rousing firebrand orator in the drizzle at the factory gate

  11. Stan (222 comments) says:

    Hi Axel 🙂

    “stan: back to the point, is a democratic union a bad thing?”

    Still no, I’ve always been in favour and supported democracy in unions.

    “But then if the strikers go off and post flying pickets on another factory, preventing it working, causing it to lose money, there must be some accountability and payback and this is the kicker because all union action must be voted on in an accepted democratic way sanctioned by the union rules, it becomes the unions financial responsibility for any production lost at an un connected factory.”

    Nobody pickets for fun because you are risking your employment and you’re not getting paid. There is always a reason and a whole host of membership meetings and votes. I’m not sure that I’ve heard of any secondary picketing taking place at an unconnected workplace, it wouldn’t make sense.
    When I was working at the DSS most of the industrial action I took part in was about office closures, reduction of public service and health and safety issues, yet if it was ever reported in the press it would always say we were striking for more pay.

    “just as you are allowed to have a few weeks to think about who you vote for in a general election and you have a cooling off period for bank loans, you now have time to think about industrial action and its consequences, instead of being led by a rabble rousing firebrand orator in the drizzle at the factory gate”

    And plenty of time to listen to the bosses threats and arm-twisting.
    I think it’s more the case that the time is used by employers to mount injunctions to prevent picketing. As for firebrands at the factory gates, unions members can vote for or against strike action. I’ve never met one of the “I’m alright Jack” stereotypes. All of the shop stewards I’ve known have a lot more to do with more mundane everyday issues than strikes – which are after all quite rare.

  12. axel (1214 comments) says:

    i used to be in the IRSF (inland revenue Staff federation) and we were the same mostly we got things resolved by us and the local management both arguing with national management to get things in order which should have been in order

    I thought secondary picketing was at unconnected workplaces? secondary being latin or greek for somewhere else? hold on, i think i may have this wrong, is secondary picketting when miners from one pit start picketing at another pit?
    I assumed because it was the same union (NUM) and the same employer (NCB) in the same dispute, it did not matter where the actual guys on the picket line came from? So therefore secondary picketng was something like you (NUM) coming to support my gang(Whinging Scottish Paracites and Layabouts) in our dispute with the dole office?

    ‘a reason and a whole host of membership meetings and votes’ remember the mass votes in the car park outside dagenham? where the result was based on a hand count?

    I always thought the civil service unions were great, it meant the management did’nt have to bother their arses about finding out what needed fixed or resolved because there was a whole sub system in the shape of the union that did all the boring donkey work for them.

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