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	<title>Comments on: Scottish doctor calls for compulsary vaccinations in England</title>
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		<title>By: axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mumps is probably the worst non self inflicted ailment i have ever had</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mumps is probably the worst non self inflicted ailment i have ever had</p>
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		<title>By: axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it is all about calculated risk, is the chance of something bad happening higher from the innoculation&#039; or higher from being uninnoculated?

Measles is a bastard, it made a noticeble mark on my year at school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it is all about calculated risk, is the chance of something bad happening higher from the innoculation&#8217; or higher from being uninnoculated?</p>
<p>Measles is a bastard, it made a noticeble mark on my year at school</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So as long as they say its not harmful you think i should let them inject my kids with whatever they want?
Look at their track record .....i did and it isnt pretty reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as long as they say its not harmful you think i should let them inject my kids with whatever they want?<br />
Look at their track record &#8230;..i did and it isnt pretty reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Maxim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if the vaccinations work, what risk is there to the vaccinated from the unvaccianted?   Logically, there must be none.  You can&#039;t have it both ways.

Vaccination, however, is not 100% safe, and is not 100% effective.  Look at the statistics from the ONS, from the 19th century onwards, and see what happened to infection rates after vaccination was introduced in the 1940s.........and you&#039;ll see that infection rates were declining well before vaccination started.  There is no discernible effect in the data from vaccination.  

Now look at the rates of asthma, allergies, diabetes, neurological disorders in children.   Massive increase since the 1940s...........makes you think, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if the vaccinations work, what risk is there to the vaccinated from the unvaccianted?   Logically, there must be none.  You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<p>Vaccination, however, is not 100% safe, and is not 100% effective.  Look at the statistics from the ONS, from the 19th century onwards, and see what happened to infection rates after vaccination was introduced in the 1940s&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and you&#8217;ll see that infection rates were declining well before vaccination started.  There is no discernible effect in the data from vaccination.  </p>
<p>Now look at the rates of asthma, allergies, diabetes, neurological disorders in children.   Massive increase since the 1940s&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..makes you think, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Janus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But parents who decide NOT to have their children vaccinated put other people&#039;s children at risk. So, yes, parents should decide, but if they make a choice that has risk implications for others then they should bear the consequences and that means not being allowed to send their children to public schools. They should then be required to make their own arrangements at their own expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But parents who decide NOT to have their children vaccinated put other people&#8217;s children at risk. So, yes, parents should decide, but if they make a choice that has risk implications for others then they should bear the consequences and that means not being allowed to send their children to public schools. They should then be required to make their own arrangements at their own expense.</p>
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		<title>By: axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>up here in the land of men is skirts, they are seriously scared in the election.

There are lots of signs, &quot;Vote, please vote, for anyone apart for the BNP &amp; UKIP&quot;

This is very odd, oki, i can see the point about campaigning against the UKIP but the BNP?

The establishment must be really scared if they are campaigning against the BNP up here.

As a point are the UKIP Daily Mail reading BNPites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>up here in the land of men is skirts, they are seriously scared in the election.</p>
<p>There are lots of signs, &#8220;Vote, please vote, for anyone apart for the BNP &amp; UKIP&#8221;</p>
<p>This is very odd, oki, i can see the point about campaigning against the UKIP but the BNP?</p>
<p>The establishment must be really scared if they are campaigning against the BNP up here.</p>
<p>As a point are the UKIP Daily Mail reading BNPites?</p>
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		<title>By: M Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Macara, former Chairman of the British Medical Association, has called for MMR vaccinations to be made compulsary by making an immunisation certificate a pre-requisite to being accepted for a school place.
He says that doctors have tried to convince parents but it’s not working so it has to be made compulsary.&quot;

Does he have a place on the big pharma board? Oh doctors have tried to &quot;convince&quot; parents! Really? Does convincing parents come under their remit? Me thinks f*ckin&#039; not! Oh I see, because the people who control the doctors cannot get their own way in a nicey nicey fashion they&#039;re going to make parents POISON THEIR OWN F*CKIN&#039; CHILDREN! In other words, we do not have a right to bring up our own kids how we ant
because some narsissistic fascist says so. Well, at present I reside in the U.S.A. and I got a waiver for my kid...on religious grounds! Maybe you can try that.   

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mercury-containing-flu-vaccines-pushed-on-queuing-voters.html

&quot;We recently reported on huge protests carried out in New Jersey by concerned parents over a new mandatory “requirement” for children to be vaccinated in order to attend preschools and day-care centers.

Mercury-based preservative containing flu shots have been directly linked with autism in children. Further studies have shown a decline in neurodevelopmental disorders after the removal of the thimerosal-containing vaccines.&quot;

http://www.mamasource.com/article/vaccinations-and-autism

http://survivingthemiddleclasscrash.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/mercury-in-vaccines-was-replaced-with-something-even-more-toxic/

The short, eye-opening eBook linked below is titled Aluminum in Vaccines — a Neurological Gamble, by Neil Miller. It documents the hazards associated with aluminum-laden vaccines. Children are receiving high concentrations of aluminum in their shots.

Vaccines containing high concentrations of neurotoxic aluminum were added to the child immunization schedule when several vaccines containing mercury were removed. Two-month old babies now receive 1,225 mcg of aluminum from their vaccines — 50 times higher than safety levels! Although the FDA, CDC and World Health Organization are aware of the dangers, they expect parents to play Russian roulette with their children.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine (see Table 1). A preservative-free version of the inactivated influenza vaccine (contains trace amounts of thimerosal) is available in limited supply at this time for use in infants, children and pregnant women. Some vaccines such as Td, which is indicated for older children (? 7 years of age) and adults, are also now available in formulations that are free of thimerosal or contain only trace amounts. Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal contain 1 microgram or less of mercury per dose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Macara, former Chairman of the British Medical Association, has called for MMR vaccinations to be made compulsary by making an immunisation certificate a pre-requisite to being accepted for a school place.<br />
He says that doctors have tried to convince parents but it’s not working so it has to be made compulsary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does he have a place on the big pharma board? Oh doctors have tried to &#8220;convince&#8221; parents! Really? Does convincing parents come under their remit? Me thinks f*ckin&#8217; not! Oh I see, because the people who control the doctors cannot get their own way in a nicey nicey fashion they&#8217;re going to make parents POISON THEIR OWN F*CKIN&#8217; CHILDREN! In other words, we do not have a right to bring up our own kids how we ant<br />
because some narsissistic fascist says so. Well, at present I reside in the U.S.A. and I got a waiver for my kid&#8230;on religious grounds! Maybe you can try that.   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/mercury-containing-flu-vaccines-pushed-on-queuing-voters.html">http://www.prisonplanet.com/mercury-containing-flu-vaccines-pushed-on-queuing-voters.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We recently reported on huge protests carried out in New Jersey by concerned parents over a new mandatory “requirement” for children to be vaccinated in order to attend preschools and day-care centers.</p>
<p>Mercury-based preservative containing flu shots have been directly linked with autism in children. Further studies have shown a decline in neurodevelopmental disorders after the removal of the thimerosal-containing vaccines.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mamasource.com/article/vaccinations-and-autism">http://www.mamasource.com/article/vaccinations-and-autism</a></p>
<p><a href="http://survivingthemiddleclasscrash.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/mercury-in-vaccines-was-replaced-with-something-even-more-toxic/">http://survivingthemiddleclasscrash.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/mercury-in-vaccines-was-replaced-with-something-even-more-toxic/</a></p>
<p>The short, eye-opening eBook linked below is titled Aluminum in Vaccines — a Neurological Gamble, by Neil Miller. It documents the hazards associated with aluminum-laden vaccines. Children are receiving high concentrations of aluminum in their shots.</p>
<p>Vaccines containing high concentrations of neurotoxic aluminum were added to the child immunization schedule when several vaccines containing mercury were removed. Two-month old babies now receive 1,225 mcg of aluminum from their vaccines — 50 times higher than safety levels! Although the FDA, CDC and World Health Organization are aware of the dangers, they expect parents to play Russian roulette with their children.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228">http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228</a></p>
<p>Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine (see Table 1). A preservative-free version of the inactivated influenza vaccine (contains trace amounts of thimerosal) is available in limited supply at this time for use in infants, children and pregnant women. Some vaccines such as Td, which is indicated for older children (? 7 years of age) and adults, are also now available in formulations that are free of thimerosal or contain only trace amounts. Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal contain 1 microgram or less of mercury per dose.</p>
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		<title>By: axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but, he warned, if levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide continued to rise, in around 1,000 years they will approach the same levels that existed &quot;before there was persistent ice sheet in Antarctica&quot; &quot;

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8079767.stm

what does this tell us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but, he warned, if levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide continued to rise, in around 1,000 years they will approach the same levels that existed &#8220;before there was persistent ice sheet in Antarctica&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>from <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8079767.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8079767.stm</a></p>
<p>what does this tell us?</p>
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		<title>By: axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wee wonko- hey dad, i dont think i should have to go to school, i dont need to learn or be innoculated

big wonko-let me calculate the risks

wee wonko-i already have and the outlook is good#

big wonko- you cant count, you have&#039;nt been to school

Wee wonko- the PM cant count either and he went to school, surely by not going in the first place it will save every a lot of blood sweat &amp; tears?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wee wonko- hey dad, i dont think i should have to go to school, i dont need to learn or be innoculated</p>
<p>big wonko-let me calculate the risks</p>
<p>wee wonko-i already have and the outlook is good#</p>
<p>big wonko- you cant count, you have&#8217;nt been to school</p>
<p>Wee wonko- the PM cant count either and he went to school, surely by not going in the first place it will save every a lot of blood sweat &amp; tears?</p>
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		<title>By: axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and surely that is a good advertising point for a school, &#039;No plague kids here!&#039;

Vaccinations  are something a parent should decide upon but the greater good of society as a whole is something the government should decide on and if it thinks kids with diseases (Measles, Mumps &amp; Rubella) are an unacceptable thing to have running about in schools, then they should be kept away from the healthier part of society.

In russia, unless a kid has a full set of vaccinations, he cant start school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and surely that is a good advertising point for a school, &#8216;No plague kids here!&#8217;</p>
<p>Vaccinations  are something a parent should decide upon but the greater good of society as a whole is something the government should decide on and if it thinks kids with diseases (Measles, Mumps &amp; Rubella) are an unacceptable thing to have running about in schools, then they should be kept away from the healthier part of society.</p>
<p>In russia, unless a kid has a full set of vaccinations, he cant start school</p>
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