EU Constitution debate – Live(ish) Blogging #4

! This post hasn't been updated in over a year. A lot can change in a year including my opinion and the amount of naughty words I use. There's a good chance that there's something in what's written below that someone will find objectionable. That's fine, if I tried to please everybody all of the time then I'd be a Lib Dem (remember them?) and I'm certainly not one of those. The point is, I'm not the kind of person to try and alter history in case I said something in the past that someone can use against me in the future but just remember that the person I was then isn't the person I am now nor the person I'll be in a year's time.

Daniel Kawczynski, Conswervative MP for Shrewsbury & Atcham, points out that the TUC have passed resolutions calling for a referendum on the EU Constitution.

Ed the Millibeast looks like a work experience boy sitting with the grown ups and keeps pulling stupid faces á-la Kevin and Perry whenever someone mentions his name.

A few more MPs have trickled in to the Chamber now the 10 o’clock vote is imminent having diligently avoided listening to the mostly pro-referendum, anti-constitution MPs who have bothered to sit through the debate.

Mark Francois, Conservative Shadow Europe Minister, makes the important point that power belongs to the people and that they are exercising it on their behalf and that it is not their to give away.  Quite right.

Jim Murphy, Liebour Europe Minister, says that EU rules have changed whenever the membership has increased and that the rules are no longer working for 27 members.  There is something we can do to alleviate this problem – we can leave and make it 26.

John Redwood asked if Murphy could give assurances that as references to the EU flag and anthem have been removed from the EU Constitution then we will no longer see the flag or hear the anthem.  Murphy replied by saying that Redwood voted against a referendum on the Maastricht Treaty which was kind of … pointless.

Murphy says that 9 countries promised a referendum on the EU Constitution but only one is now holding a referendum – the Republic of Ireland.  Gisela Stuart, Liebour MP for Edgbaston, suggests that this is because those states are terrified of getting the wrong answer in a referendum after what happened in France and the Netherlands.

Murphy confirms that despite Traitor Blair saying that the UK would have an opt-out from the EU Fundamental Charter of Human Rights, the UK will have no opt-out on the Charter.

The vote is now taking place …

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