Second Preference Votes

! This post hasn't been updated in over a year. A lot can change in a year including my opinion and the amount of naughty words I use. There's a good chance that there's something in what's written below that someone will find objectionable. That's fine, if I tried to please everybody all of the time then I'd be a Lib Dem (remember them?) and I'm certainly not one of those. The point is, I'm not the kind of person to try and alter history in case I said something in the past that someone can use against me in the future but just remember that the person I was then isn't the person I am now nor the person I'll be in a year's time.

Iain Dale has published the results of a survey to find out who people would give a second vote to at the next election if the voting system was changed.

Bear in mind that his readership is predominantly Conswervative supporting but the results are encouraging, especially if you’re a UKIP supporter!

In total, 63.6% of people said they would vote Conswervative if there were an election tomorrow.  Liebour only managed 9.7% which puts them in third place.

A massive 41.4% of Conswervative voters said they would give their second vote to UKIP.  Interestingly, 8.1% said they would give their second vote to the English Democrats and only 2.8% said Liebour.  And considering it was Call Me Dave that started the green obsession in Westminster, only 6.8% would give their second vote to the Green Party.
36.6% of Liebour voters said they would give the Illiberal Dumbocrats their second vote and 22.8% would give it to the Greens.

Now very interestingly, the Illiberal Dumbocrats aren’t as keen on Liebour as Liebour are on them – only 14.2% would give their second vote to Liebour but 39.4% would give it to the Conswervatives.  Not a single Illiberal Dumbocrat would give their vote to the EDP and only 0.8% to UKIP but as a eurofederalist, English hating bunch of traitors, that’s hardly surprising.

50% of UKIP voters said they would give the Conswervatives their second vote, Liebour was inadvertently left out of the list and 16.6% said they would give their second vote to the BNP.  13.6% said they would give their second vote to the English Democrats which shows that Mr Farage should listen when I tell him that UKIP needs to support an English Parliament.
Iain seems to think the most noteworthy result in the survey is that 16.6% of UKIPers would give their second vote to the BNP but then he’s not averse to publishing non-stories about UKIP and who can blame him?  I’d be worried if I was a Conswervative and that many Conswervative voters were giving support to UKIP and with Camoron‘s inaction over the EU Constitution and his eurofederalist tendencies, it isn’t going to get any better for them.  Of course, there’s no telling what the results would have looked like if Liebour was included in the UKIP poll – it might have taken some of the left wing votes from the BNP or they might have got nothing.  I’d be interested to see the results of a revised poll with Liebour in it.

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  1. axel (1214 comments) says:

    the Westminster voting system does need changed, first past the post is a pile of stale pish. Our, scottish, system is quite good, it allows the parties to be severly punished nationally without getting stuck into the individual memebers who have done a good job, in spite of their affiliations.

    What are the thoughts from the Taffs and Micks about their variants?

  2. axel (1214 comments) says:

    another good thing is you can tatically vote to whack someone AND still vote for what you actually care about with your second vote.

  3. Charlie Marks (365 comments) says:

    Very interesting Wonko. It does surprise me that UKIP continue to call for the UK parliament to have power over Wales, Scotland, etc. How come you haven’t defected to the EDP then, Wonko?

    The Micks – I take it you mean the people of Ireland… well in the North they’ve got FPTP for Westminster elections. But in the Republic of Ireland they’ve had STV since the twenties, if I recall correctly. I first heard of STV from visiting Ireland as a teenager and having it all patiently explained to me… several times.

  4. axel (1214 comments) says:

    Oh, i thought ulster had new system, like we have up here but slightly different as is the welsh system

  5. wonkotsane (1133 comments) says:

    The EU is the biggest threat to England at the moment – the balkanisation of England is down to the EU and as it stands, England has to be regionalised to get any money from the EU.

    Besides, I don’t feel comfortable with the EDP. Don’t know why – the EDP people I know are all fine, including Robin Tilbrook – but I just don’t feel comfortable joining them. I’ve had good experience of UKIP.

  6. Charlie Marks (365 comments) says:

    ‘Tis fair enough I supppose, though under the current electoral system, there’s a danger that likeminded parties are hamstrung by competition.

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