Let’s talk about immigration

! This post hasn't been updated in over a year. A lot can change in a year including my opinion and the amount of naughty words I use. There's a good chance that there's something in what's written below that someone will find objectionable. That's fine, if I tried to please everybody all of the time then I'd be a Lib Dem (remember them?) and I'm certainly not one of those. The point is, I'm not the kind of person to try and alter history in case I said something in the past that someone can use against me in the future but just remember that the person I was then isn't the person I am now nor the person I'll be in a year's time.

If there’s one topic that can cause heated discussion, it’s immigration.  For too long it’s been a taboo subject and public criticism of unfettered discrimination has been left to the far left BNP, assorted nutjob organisations on the fringes of mainstream politics and a relative few individuals prepared to put their heads above the parapet.

But there has been a change lately and immigration is no longer the taboo subject it was.  It seems that the more full the country gets, the less jobs and houses there are to go round the people that already live here, the more people talk about the proverbial elephant in the room.

The facts are quite simple.  At this point in time, according to the Office of National Statistics, there are 2.45m people living in the UK that don’t have a job whilst there are only 480k job vacancies.  That’s 5 people currently living here, relying on unemployment benefits, for every job vacancy.  In 2004 there were half a million homeless people in England alone and the figures are rising year on year.  According to Property World, we need to build a quarter of a million new houses every year just to keep up with population growth and currently about 100,000 per year are being built.

So there aren’t enough jobs for the people already living here, nor are there enough houses.  But the British government still allowed a quarter of a million immigrants to move here in 2008.  Where will they live?  Where will they work?  Or, as they have to have somewhere to live and work before they can move here (EU citizens excepted, of course), where are the homeless people already living here going to live and where are the unemployed people already living here going to work?

We cannot sustain economic immigration and it will be a number of years until we are able to do so.  Unemployment and homelessness needs to be down to the 10’s of thousands before we can sustain economic immigration.  It’s not about race or religion or skin colour or any other minority qualification, it’s about maths and logic.  The country is full.  The country is broke.  We can’t afford to pay people not to work because the jobs they could have been doing have gone to people moving here from another country.

The LibLabCon are talking about a fairer society in their general election campaigns but there is nothing fair in increasing the already unsustainable competition for the woefully inadequate supply of jobs and houses.  It’s unfair on everybody who lives here, whether they can trace their ancestry back to the Anglo-Saxon settlers or whether they’re first generation immigrants who’ve been here barely 12 months.  The unemployment and homelessness crisis that’s exacerbated by immigration affects us all.

The BNP and their racist clones aren’t the solution to this problem.  Closing our borders to all immigration and “sending the darkies home” isn’t the answer.  The only party with a sensible and fair policy on immigration is UKIP – ban all economic immigration for 5 years and then introduce a points-based system for all immigrants, including those from the European Empire.  That gives us 5 years to get people already living here into jobs and houses and then allow only the people we need to come and live and work here.


  1. Hippy (1 comments) says:

    Sounds very sensible to me.

  2. Daggs (55 comments) says:

    You underestimate the problem Wonko.
    There may be 2.4M people claiming job-seekers allowance, but there are many more unemployed but not claiming. In fact the total number of ‘economically inactive’ people exceeds 5M.
    There are various categories. For example. 16 – 18 yr olds who leave school but don’t start work. Long term sick. Those that have sneaked into the country and may or may not be working, but are not paying tax. The list goes on and the ‘big three’ will continue to pretend it’s not happening. Rather like asymmetric devolution in fact.

  3. Rob (27 comments) says:

    Your comments on immigration are interesting, as doggs points out, there are more than 5 million unemployed, only a complete ban on immigration, and applying the following rules to those who wish to come here, but as any government or economist knows, it is essential to have at least 7% of the working population unemployed, to be able to fill the none existent vacancies !

    1. must have sufficient funds to support themselves and thier families for a period of not less than 5 years.
    2. if employment has not been offered and accepted prior to entry, then immigration entry refused, and immediate return to the last country of residence, no appeals.
    3. no state bailouts or use of any of our health facilities unless paid for in advance during a 5 year period.

    4. if the position taken ends prior to, or at the end of 5 years, then automatic return to the original country of origin, including all EU states.

  4. axel (1214 comments) says:

    How much border control is there?

    I am under the impression, there is almost none and that is a problem

    Another oddity, apparently, is you can come here, then apply for your visa.

    The civil service procedures for dealing with deportations are a joke

  5. Rob (27 comments) says:

    axel, all the EU states apply the shengen agreement,no border control, except for Great Britain ! (sic) but the policy here is as you say, roll up, get your visa when you are here, the question to be asked is why its allowed, perhaps it may be to do with the number of imigrants now employed by the civil service, but we do have emigration, all those that can afford to are leaving, mainly the indiginous population, those who as wonko says “can trace thier ancestry back to the anglo saxons” perhaps that says they prefer to live in exile, or feel that is the only way to survive a sinking ship!

  6. axel (1214 comments) says:

    so, we have a double problem, porous borders and an incompotent civil service?

  7. John (37 comments) says:

    For anyone thinking that unfettered immigration is due to incompetent Liebour or Conservative Governments, think again. Google Andrew Neather and you will find that this key labour Policy maker admited that Labour set out to ‘create a multi cultural Britain’ ‘To change the UK forever and rub the tories noses in it’
    Not incompetent but part of the Gobal plan for the world. Wonko I think you will find that the BNP policy is less discriminating, they want to close boarders, use the existing repatriation scheme and send as many back as they can, Black or white. I think we have come to the point where our lying elites will say anything, they want loads of Turks here. Sadly I don’t think UKIP go far enough, so BNP for me!

  8. Alfie the OK (19 comments) says:

    Add together the unemployed and the economically inactive – (people on disability etc) and the figure is heading to 8.5 million.

    Part of that total are 3 of my sons who cannot get jobs – apart from 1 of them who washes dishes in a pub at the weekends.

    The well respected and liked Spanish families who have been coming over to our area every season since the end of WW2 to pick the local market garden produce have all been usurped and replaced by scores of Polish youth who like to tank up on Polish lager on a Saturday night. The local jobs market (farm work and small business engineering work) is now off limits to the locals as they are routinely undercut by outsiders. All the small scale apprenticeship schemes have gone as local companies would rather employ a no-strings foreigner at a cheaper rate than train a local up… Some semi detached houses in our village have as much as 15 eastern europeans living in each one.

    When I had my design business, I lost count of the amount of emails and mail shots I received from agencies which advertised eastern european staff at cut price rates. Their unique selling points were that they could undercut the native incumbents.

    I just wonder if it would have been different if all these people coming here were going for jobs as MPs or TV presenters?..

    IMHO, this country is about to explode into civil unrest….. And when it does, I do hope those responsible will feel suitably ashamed of themselves. But somehow, I doubt it…

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